Look at this stupid game of Magic

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Re: Look at this stupid game of Magic

Post by Khaos » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:16 pm

that bone crusher giant thing seemed obvious to me but i probably would have just turned my dudes sideways and lost. or won anyway. i dunno, is a 5/5 ooze that big of a deal? i chalk that up to me not playing constructed :morph:

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Re: Look at this stupid game of Magic

Post by KingRamz » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:01 pm

Khaos wrote:that bone crusher giant thing seemed obvious to me but i probably would have just turned my dudes sideways and lost. or won anyway. i dunno, is a 5/5 ooze that big of a deal? i chalk that up to me not playing constructed :morph:
To bring it home to a limited perspective, remember he is red/green so he's going to have trouble dealing with a guy that big on the opposing side of the board.

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Re: Look at this stupid game of Magic

Post by Khaos » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:52 pm

KingRamz wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:01 pm
Khaos wrote:that bone crusher giant thing seemed obvious to me but i probably would have just turned my dudes sideways and lost. or won anyway. i dunno, is a 5/5 ooze that big of a deal? i chalk that up to me not playing constructed :morph:
To bring it home to a limited perspective, remember he is red/green so he's going to have trouble dealing with a guy that big on the opposing side of the board.
i mean, maybe?

you swing with everything, they trade with QB, and take 5, then gain back 3 and make a 5/5 over that turn and the next turn. they have a 5/5 but are at 9 (and your pc is slightly larger)

then they're dead on board the next turn anyway (if they gust then you embercleave and win)

this seems like it's probably worse but you win anyway

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Re: Look at this stupid game of Magic

Post by Juri » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:30 am

the_zoomies wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:08 pm holy shit, PV is good at Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxH1Pz8fXOk
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Re: Look at this stupid game of Magic

Post by the_zoomies » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:24 pm

Khaos wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:16 pm that bone crusher giant thing seemed obvious to me but i probably would have just turned my dudes sideways and lost. or won anyway. i dunno, is a 5/5 ooze that big of a deal? i chalk that up to me not playing constructed :morph:
From a "you make the play" perspective, if someone cold presents me that scenario (pass with G G/U up, do not grow the ooze), I can tell you the bone crusher line. Like of the hundreds of such interactions in a 5 round tourney, I'm not able to pull out the 4-5 scenarios like that.

LSV says that "understanding your opponent's perspective is such a big part of the game", and I nod smugly, but like, I'm not remotely there. Given a moment where I'm supposed to find the "signal" I can do it, what I can't do is parse out the noise.

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Post by pterrus » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:39 pm

I think playing EDH has ruined me a little bit. First of all, your opponent can always have basically anything, and they can even do a lot of stuff while tapped out. Second, in EDH if your opponent declines to pump their ooze, 9 times out of 10 the reason is "they forgot because there were a million other things going on."

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Post by Khaos » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:55 pm

limited is great for this, because once you get good at figuring out what commons they could have, you move onto uncommons

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Post by the_zoomies » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:54 pm

pterrus wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:39 pm I think playing EDH has ruined me a little bit. First of all, your opponent can always have basically anything, and they can even do a lot of stuff while tapped out. Second, in EDH if your opponent declines to pump their ooze, 9 times out of 10 the reason is "they forgot because there were a million other things going on."
Well yes, PV neglected to include "The pizza rolls arrived" in their solution space

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Post by Juri » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:59 pm

Khaos wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:55 pm limited is great for this, because once you get good at figuring out what commons they could have, you move onto uncommons
if the boardwipes are like 6 mana you even get to play around some rares
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Post by Juri » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:59 pm

im mostly thinking of Gatecrash limited where it was really obvious when someone had Merciless Eviction
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Post by Khaos » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:08 pm

its definitely way easier to do this now that every draft format is XXX or whatever. kind of a shame

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Re: Look at this stupid game of Magic

Post by Khaos » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:12 pm

i wonder if snow lands will be first pickable like they were in coldsnap

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