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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:57 pm

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:06 pm

Damn there's a 10 year queue for this game already
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:14 am

What actually stops someone from selling fantasy cards?Card frames and mana symbols etc obviously, and of course wotc could come at you even without the law on their side
wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Rylinks » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:14 am

the tap patent is expired right

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:17 am

Yeah I think so
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:34 am

drk 2-1
juri 2-0
jack 0-2
hyphenated 2-1
ashenai 2-0
rylinks
tt1

gg's ashe

both games played out similarly. i was slowly dying under ashe's massve card advantage engines, and then ashe would play a huge threat, then i would threaten it and win. g2 he could have maybe stifled it but he blew up chandra earlier instead, which was possibly the correct call, who knows

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:37 am

It definitely wasn't, I don't think Chandra could have done anything that impressive and her ability couldn't have even targeted the Temple (it can be attacked as a planeswalker, not targeted as one). I'm just bad :(

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:43 am

that goblin rules. i think i've cast him equally as both modes
Ashenai wrote:It definitely wasn't, I don't think Chandra could have done anything that impressive and her ability couldn't have even targeted the Temple (it can be attacked as a planeswalker, not targeted as one). I'm just bad :(
ok but did you consider the extra style points for getting my hopes up for an extra card by letting me untap with her and then crushing my dreams

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:44 am

Very Dimir of me, if I do say so myself :evilgrin:

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:50 pm

Skeletor wrote:What actually stops someone from selling fantasy cards?Card frames and mana symbols etc obviously, and of course wotc could come at you even without the law on their side
ok but what if you sold the space cube

actually, where can i find that cube?

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:43 pm

2-0 against Jack
2-1 against Rylinks
1-2 against TT1
2-1 against Juri
0-2-1 against drk (one game ended in a draw when Cockatrice decided that 5 minutes of warning was ample for server maintenance)
0-2 against Khaos

haven't played yet: Hyphen

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:47 pm

Drk discovered an interesting wrinkle in the way Underworld Sea is worded.
(T: Add U or B.)
As Underworld Sea is tapped for mana, put a Wastes counter on it. Remove that counter as you start your turn if Underworld Sea is untapped. (Permanents with Wastes counters on them are colorless basic lands named Wastes with ""T: Add C."")
This means that if an Underworld Sea with a wastes counter on it is tapped for C, it will get a second Wastes counter! It'll just keep getting more Wastes counters. This is probably not what was intended!

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:54 pm

Khaos wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:50 pm
Skeletor wrote:What actually stops someone from selling fantasy cards?Card frames and mana symbols etc obviously, and of course wotc could come at you even without the law on their side
ok but what if you sold the space cube

actually, where can i find that cube?
Space cube is violating the copyright on the cards, I think
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:59 pm

I would also like to print a space cube though
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:30 pm

Ashenai wrote:Drk discovered an interesting wrinkle in the way Underworld Sea is worded.
(T: Add U or B.)
As Underworld Sea is tapped for mana, put a Wastes counter on it. Remove that counter as you start your turn if Underworld Sea is untapped. (Permanents with Wastes counters on them are colorless basic lands named Wastes with ""T: Add C."")
This means that if an Underworld Sea with a wastes counter on it is tapped for C, it will get a second Wastes counter! It'll just keep getting more Wastes counters. This is probably not what was intended!
its not but i also redid it to be less fiddly!

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:47 am

here's everyone's decklists with card image tags, thanks to the miracle of spreadsheets. all hail spreadsheets!

Hyphenated Khaos drk
Spoiler!
Jack Rylinks Juri Ashenai ok almost everyones. i dont have tt1's in a parsable format

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:58 am

Spoiler!
// 40 Maindeck
// 7 Artifact
1 Temple to Urza
1 Sol Bracelet
1 Simic Pact
1 Thran Motor
1 Guildpact Tome
1 Demonic Heart
1 Golgari Pact

// 9 Creature
1 Eraser
1 Clockwork Broodmother
1 Lixia, Fatespinner
1 Messenger Imp
1 Amorka, Tortoise of Rath
1 Proud Mechanist
1 Perfect Visage
1 Focused Librarian
1 Battlefield Oracle

// 1 Enchantment
1 Uncovering the Thran

// 2 Instant
1 Arcane Barrier
1 No Mouth // Must Scream

// 16 Land
1 Mishra's Refinery
1 Underworld Sea
1 Strixhaven, Elite University
6 Island
7 Swamp

// 5 Sorcery
1 Traitor Among Us
1 Two Heads Are Better Than One
1 Tear from the Mind
1 Demonic Visions
1 Witch's Bargin


// 132 Sideboard
// 1
SB: 1 Fblthp, Curious Homunculus

// 3 Artifact
SB: 1 Gate to the Meditation Plane
SB: 1 Orb of Seasons
SB: 1 Skeleton Keys

// 9 Creature
SB: 1 Marret, Darkwood Explorer // Search the Darkwood
SB: 1 Tamiyo Cloudseeder
SB: 1 Sleeper Agents
SB: 1 Twin-fire Hydra
SB: 1 Dormant Wurm
SB: 1 Scrap Harpy
SB: 1 Undercity Boss
SB: 1 Hematology Scholar
SB: 1 Divining Sensei

// 1 Enchantment
SB: 1 Smoldering Ritual

// 1 Instant
SB: 1 I Got This

// 112 Land
SB: 25 Plains
SB: 19 Island
SB: 18 Swamp
SB: 25 Mountain
SB: 25 Forest

// 5 Sorcery
SB: 1 Cornacopia
SB: 1 Evercast
SB: 1 Council of the Sakura-Tribe

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:12 pm

All hail spreadsheets
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:04 pm

latest RAM text: At the beginning of your upkeep, choose a card in your graveyard at random. If it's an instant or sorcery card, it gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost. Otherwise, exile it.

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:41 pm

Change the rules so that if you have flashback with no mana cost, your flashback cost is equal to your mana cost. Then you can use fewer words
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:14 pm

Skeletor wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:41 pm Change the rules so that if you have flashback with no mana cost, your flashback cost is equal to your mana cost. Then you can use fewer words
infinite loop with Evermind

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:29 pm

That card isn't in the cube. Also it gets exiled?

Also you could leave it how it works now, I was saying "flashback" with no cost is just shorthand for "flashback equal to its cost" which would leave Evermind with Flashback uncastable

I'm sorry Ashenai but you were wrong in every imaginable way
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:21 pm

thats a good idea except everyone and their moms will be telling me that i forgot to list the cost

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:58 pm

Skeletor wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:29 pm I'm sorry Ashenai but you were wrong in every imaginable way
or was I

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Skeletor » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:46 pm

Khaos wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:21 pm thats a good idea except everyone and their moms will be telling me that i forgot to list the cost
Not my mom

I bet normal players wouldn't even notice
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:54 pm

Skeletor wrote:Not my mom
#NotMyMom

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:31 pm

My mom is up in arms. She demands to know what you were even thinking. She also says that you seem like a strapping young man and she hopes you're making something of yourself.

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by the_zoomies » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:26 am

Juri wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:16 pm Final Juri Standings
1-2 vs Hyphen-ated
1-2 vs TheTravelling1
0-2 vs Khaos
0-2 vs Drk
0-2 vs Rylinks
0-2 vs Jack
1-2 vs Ashenai
The fact that you played it out says great things about the cube :patriot:

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by the_zoomies » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:27 am

#notallmoms

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Juri » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:46 am

the_zoomies wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:26 am
Juri wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:16 pm Final Juri Standings
1-2 vs Hyphen-ated
1-2 vs TheTravelling1
0-2 vs Khaos
0-2 vs Drk
0-2 vs Rylinks
0-2 vs Jack
1-2 vs Ashenai
The fact that you played it out says great things about the cube :patriot:
it says great things about me personally and nothing about the cube, thank you very much! i'd play out all 7 rounds of a grab bag draft with prophecy in it if i signedu p for such a thing

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