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Re: netrunner

Post by Jeb Bush 2012 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:52 pm

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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:31 pm

https://twitter.com/Crunchumz/status/14 ... 3368657926
i am pleased with this dumb joke that i made
it's basically a netrunner version of "wizards bans Island", which i think was an article on MT or ML or something at some point?
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Re: netrunner

Post by the_zoomies » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:05 pm

Starprintsky wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:01 am
Crunchums wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:41 pm
5) In keeping games more interactive, we're looking to significantly decrease the power level of ICE in the game, as well as wildly reduce ICE complexity to help encourage earlier and more frequent running throughout an entire game.
!!! hell yeah
Are they going to what, errata a bunch of the cards? Ban the most powerful ICE?
I've found constant carbon emissions as very effective in weakening ICE

(Joke B: DEFUND ICE)

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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:28 pm

they did actually end up just banning some of the good ice
Slot Machine is banned.
Engram Flush is banned.
Fairchild 3.0 is banned.
now there are other issues, but it does feel nice for those cards to be gone
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Re: netrunner

Post by Khaos » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:10 pm

Crunchums wrote:Slot Machine is banned.
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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:14 pm

:lol:
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Re: netrunner

Post by Ashenai » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:35 pm

MY GACHAS :cry:

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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:44 pm

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Re: netrunner

Post by Ashenai » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:46 pm

wow those both look real bad

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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:00 pm

Gachapon is very good in decks that have sufficient targets, which isn't super hard to do - Rezeki, Paladin Poemu (all of the companions are virtual resources - it's thematic!), DreamNet
e.g.
https://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/659 ... re-sc-4-1-
https://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/629 ... n-friends-
https://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/657 ... still-good

Loot Box is pretty bad; compare Special Offer
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Re: netrunner

Post by Jeb Bush 2012 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:12 pm

gachapon seems like it would be great if you hit reliably yeah, that's two free credits

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Re: netrunner

Post by Rylinks » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:13 pm

somehow the exact opposite of gacha

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Re: netrunner

Post by Jeb Bush 2012 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:14 pm

the secret of gambling is to always win

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Re: netrunner

Post by Ashenai » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:17 pm

Jeb Bush 2012 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:12 pm gachapon seems like it would be great if you hit reliably yeah, that's two free credits
It's not two free credits, because it costs an action to draw (which you could have used to get at least 1 credit, possibly more) and an action to install (which you also could have used to get 1+ credits). So its best case is credit-neutral.

The very first trick to evaluating Netrunner cards is to mentally add 2 to the cost of every card.

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Re: netrunner

Post by Ashenai » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:19 pm

wait no I'm totally wrong because it draws and installs a card, Jeb is right

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Re: netrunner

Post by Ashenai » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:20 pm

The second trick to evaluating Netrunner cards is to not pay attention to the shit I say

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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:31 pm

Jeb Bush 2012 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:12 pm gachapon seems like it would be great if you hit reliably yeah, that's two free credits
also good dig, also thins your deck of things you don't want
Rylinks wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:13 pm somehow the exact opposite of gacha
sometimes you do whiff! but if you play enough targets it doesn't happen that often
and even when you hit, some hits are better than others
sometimes you're mid-run and super hoping for a card that will get you through the current piece of ICE; roll them bones
Ashenai wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:17 pm The very first trick to evaluating Netrunner cards is to mentally add 2 to the cost of every card.
i get what you're saying, but almost* every card has to be drawn and costs a click to install, so there's not much point to doing that when comparing cards to each other

*paperclip is one counterexample
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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:18 am

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Re: netrunner

Post by Blissful » Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:51 am

Khaos wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:10 pm
Crunchums wrote:Slot Machine is banned.
finally
haha
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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:16 am

tf34 spends and pays 0 to play Jailbreak.
...
tf34 spends 2 hosted power counters from on The Turning Wheel to use The Turning Wheel to access 1 additional card from HQ for the remainder of the run.
tf34 uses Find the Truth to look at the top card of R&D.
tf34 accesses Global Food Initiative from HQ.
tf34 steals Global Food Initiative and gains 3 agenda points.
tf34 accesses Above the Law from HQ.
tf34 steals Above the Law and gains 2 agenda points.
tf34 accesses Project Atlas from HQ.
tf34 steals Project Atlas and gains 2 agenda points.
tf34 accesses Malapert Data Vault from HQ.
tf34 uses Neutralize All Threats to reveal Malapert Data Vault in HQ.
tf34 pays 4 to trash Malapert Data Vault from HQ.
...
tf34 accesses an unseen card from R&D.
tf34 steals Hostile Takeover and gains 1 agenda point.
tf34 wins the game.

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Re: netrunner

Post by Blissful » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:24 pm

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Re: netrunner

Post by Blissful » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:25 pm

who is tf34? is that your buddy? it isnt you, right, you're crunchums
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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:55 pm

yes, it is my friend
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Re: netrunner

Post by Ashenai » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:30 pm

Was he playing Adam, or is Neutralize All Threats played in non-Adam decks?

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Re: netrunner

Post by Ashenai » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:34 pm

Also I have a rules question about the drawback on that card: how exactly is "if able" evaluated? Like what if you're broke but you have credits on a Miss Bones, does NAT "see" those credits and force you to use them?

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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:35 am

Ashenai wrote:Was he playing Adam, or is Neutralize All Threats played in non-Adam decks?
yes he was playing Adam. NAT outside of Adam is rare (Find the Truth is more common)
Ashenai wrote:Also I have a rules question about the drawback on that card: how exactly is "if able" evaluated? Like what if you're broke but you have credits on a Miss Bones, does NAT "see" those credits and force you to use them?
if you are able to pay the trash cost then you have to pay the trash cost (so yes, NAT "sees" Bones credits)
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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:11 pm

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Re: netrunner

Post by Blissful » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:18 pm

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Re: netrunner

Post by Khaos » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:21 pm

the winner will go on to face underwear_sniffer in the finals

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Re: netrunner

Post by Crunchums » Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:08 am

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toby swept the first three rounds, then ID'd the next 3 rounds and ended up in the cut without having to play the tiebreak round, what a champ lol

the tiebreak round is actually a pretty neat format:
all of the pairs of players (8,9 (i.e. the players who finished 8th and 9th respectively)), (7,10), (6,11), (5,12) who have the same number of points play a bo1 for a spot in the cut
so here the tiebreak round is 8vs9 and 7vs10
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