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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by drk » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:42 pm

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drk wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:13 pm
Juri wrote:even this deck probably doesn't need all three Invigorating Surges right
I would want to try Igneous Cur in this deck. Give it a Pridemalkin counter and that threatens a lot of damage pretty quickly, and it's actually a good use of the green shrine's mana. I think you can lose one Dreadmaw and at least one Surge. Not a huge fan of Fungal Rebirth here, but I haven't gotten to draft that a lot so maybe it's better than it looks in this deck. With two Hunter's Edge I would very play the Dilophosaurus.
these are good points. i'll look at it more closely but i worry about the dilophosaur ever getting triggered which makes me feel like its not worth it. the synergy with hunters edge doesnt really matter much i dont think
Invigorating Surge on any of your creatures gets you to four power, including on itself. Attacking as a 6/6 deathtoucher is pretty good too, and if you have a Pridemalkin for trample hoo boy!

I'm not sure I overvalue the Hunter's Edge combo. Even at uncommon there are a lot of big targets that need to die once your opponent gets to both 6 and 7 mana and toughness.

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Ashenai » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:44 pm

Crunchums wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:30 pm is the new non-shitty magic online thing ("arena" ?) f2p?
Sort of? You earn currency by playing, so you can definitely play for free if you're patient. You just won't be able to play as often as you'd like (if you like to draft), or build your collection as fast as you'd like (if you play constructed).

I started full FTP and played and enjoyed myself a bunch before deciding that I was okay with putting some cash in.

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Post by Jeb Bush 2012 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:02 pm

I played full FTP for a while and it was fun but eventually I got annoyed by the fact that the game really wants you to play it *regularly* and gave it up entirely

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Post by Ashenai » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:09 pm

yeah that does get annoying

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Post by pterrus » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:20 pm

I'm full FTP and I have basically a full deck worth of wildcards that I'm never going to use because lol standard. I do like how you can go infinite drafting pretty easily as long as you don't want to play back to back drafts on a single day (which I don't have time for anyway).

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Post by Khaos » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:15 pm

i have played 18 m21 drafts so far and it has cost me exactly 0 gems

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Post by seathesee » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:38 pm

finally got daybreak charger.dec to work out. 6-2 in games with this one.

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my last match was against someone named "HerculesNoMulligan" who taunted me with "good game" after i mulliganed game 1, and "oops" after i mulliganed game 2, then they mulliganed to 5 in the last game giving me supreme moral and karmic victory.
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Khaos » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:59 pm

what a sideboard!

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Post by seathesee » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:06 pm

Khaos wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:59 pmwhat a sideboard!
note to self: do not save the deck and screenshot it afterwards.

i will take a screenshot with the sideboard showing if there is enough of a demand.
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Khaos » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:14 am

i demand $40,000

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Jeb Bush 2012 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:26 am

I demand satisfaction

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Khaos » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:31 am

Jeb Bush 2012 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:02 pm I played full FTP for a while and it was fun but eventually I got annoyed by the fact that the game really wants you to play it *regularly* and gave it up entirely
now that i have enough gems as a cushion i can just ignore quests entirely. which is super nice

when i was starting i would grind standard for gold which was definately bleh when i could not play my favorite deck because it wasnt red/black or whatever

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Post by seathesee » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:01 am

here is a 6 win deck with a sideboard:

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gale swooper has really been climbing my internal rankings--the body is great, and the ability can eek out a game in decline or close it out a turn earlier. anointed chorister has gone up from experience, from a "slightly better one drop than suntail hawk" to almost an auto-include. tolarian kraken is a nice body, but the ability seems to take too much to break a game open--downranked.
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Post by seathesee » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:04 am

drk wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:05 pm
I think I like Sure Strike more than Titanic Growth. It's a lot better getting your smaller creatures to just eat a Garruk's Gorehorn or a Colossal Dreadmaw, instead of trading even after pump.
i think its really close, and im still sort of undecided. titanic growth does have bigger numbers and the ability to cancel out a damage removal spell or an opposing pump spell going for it. i am kind of a sucker for bigger numbers.
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Khaos » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:15 am

ok make it $50,000

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Post by seathesee » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:40 am

i feel like this has a lot of potential, but my build is wrong:

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is 16 creatures too much for kaervek?

edit: 6-1 with this. kept it built this way. kaervek was fine, not great.
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by seathesee » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:46 am

Khaos wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:15 amok make it $50,000
im going to have to give you a lot more money before were anywhere close to a deal.
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Post by Skeletor » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:55 am

I can't get no forty thousand
And I try and I try and I try, t-t-t-t-try, try
I can't get no
wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by KingRamz » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:02 am

Ashenai wrote:There is no difference between building a BO3 deck and a BO1 deck (except during the picks, because you obviously won't pick sideboard cards if you're gonna be playing BO1). But for a given pool, the best deck for a BO1 is also the best deck for the first game in a BO3.
This isn't true because BO1 has hand smoothing, so you can probably get away with shaving a land and your opponents are a little more likely to have a mix of lands and spells in their 7 and be able to curve out.

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Khaos » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:11 am

whoever said 3 invigorating surges was too many

you're probably right. i cut one and i still have a 15/14 hobblefiend

edit: 3-0'd. ended up cutting a dreadmaw, surge, pridemalkin, and trufflesnout for one igneous cur

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Khaos » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:02 am

i took garruk over volcanic and then the volcanic wheeled. people on arena do not know how to play magic!

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Juri » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:11 pm

Thank you all for your suggestions. I cut the angel summoner, but kept the Mangara splash since I don't actually have any need for more than 7 blue sources. I sideboarded in card draw basically every game. The deck absolutely needed it. I went 2-1 and didn't have mana problems once. Was that because my build was right, or just because I was lucky? Who's to say~
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Juri » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:12 pm

Khaos wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:02 ami took garruk over volcanic and then the volcanic wheeled.
this forum doesnt have the right emote to express my response to this
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Juri » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:13 pm

drk wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:09 pm Brash Taunter, meet Ahab. I think you two are going to do lovely things together.
haha cool
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Ashenai » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:13 pm

Juri wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:12 pm
Khaos wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:02 ami took garruk over volcanic and then the volcanic wheeled.
this forum doesnt have the right emote to express my response to this
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Khaos » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:14 pm

Juri wrote:Thank you all for your suggestions. I cut the angel summoner, but kept the Mangara splash since I don't actually have any need for more than 7 blue sources. I sideboarded in card draw basically every game. The deck absolutely needed it. I went 2-1 and didn't have mana problems once. Was that because my build was right, or just because I was lucky? Who's to say~
i don't think i explictly said it but i also woulda gone straight UB

also you can change your build in between matches

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Juri » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:14 pm

Ashenai wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:13 pm
Juri wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:12 pm
Khaos wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:02 ami took garruk over volcanic and then the volcanic wheeled.
this forum doesnt have the right emote to express my response to this
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it's more of a wide eyed stare emote i think
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Ashenai » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:15 pm

Juri wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:14 pm
Ashenai wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:13 pm
Juri wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:12 pm this forum doesnt have the right emote to express my response to this
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it's more of a wide eyed stare emote i think
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Juri » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:18 pm

Khaos wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:14 pm
Juri wrote:Thank you all for your suggestions. I cut the angel summoner, but kept the Mangara splash since I don't actually have any need for more than 7 blue sources. I sideboarded in card draw basically every game. The deck absolutely needed it. I went 2-1 and didn't have mana problems once. Was that because my build was right, or just because I was lucky? Who's to say~
i don't think i explictly said it but i also woulda gone straight UB
It's probably correct to. 10 sources is my minimum for grasp, but 11-12 is nice to have. Mangara dominated an otherwise unwinnable game and I never got colour-screwed so I certainly got good results from this build, but I'd probably do it differently if I went in again.

I feel like my real lesson is to make slightly different decisions in the drafting phase lol. I don't remember the exact card I got in exchange for it, but passing a Waker of Waves during this draft was not even remotely reasonable to do
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Juri » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:20 pm

Ashenai wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:15 pm
Juri wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:14 pm
Ashenai wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:13 pm
it's more of a wide eyed stare emote i think
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