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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Skeletor » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:58 pm

Doug wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:46 pm
Skeletor wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:44 pm
Doug wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:37 pm I find it confusing saying that these cards are "banned." "Banned" usually means from a specific format, not "in all formats." For these cards, I think we should use a different word, like "canceled"
Well what about ante cards and dexterity cards
Those aren't banned in 5-Color
Well okay but that's not a sanctioned format, right?

I guess you could say they've been both banned and cancelled

Oh yeah and there's the image thing too
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Post by Faceless » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:37 pm

Khaos wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:41 pm remember when they almost printed that card that did 3 damage to a creature, or 3 damage to a player, and you could pay to do both?
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Post by Monty » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:53 pm

Wizards of the Coast promised in 1994 not to reprint Stone-Throwing Devils because it was offensive to someone. My memory is that it was Palestinians because that was a phrase they were being called a lot, but I can't find the announcement. It certainly predates the website and it looks like it predates the creation of the rec.arts.games.trading-cards.* hierarchy. It's probably in a Duelist, but meh.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that Stone-Throwing Devils was actually noted as offensive when it came out, so it being on the new list is probably a result of somebody remembering that the way I do.
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Post by Monty » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:56 pm

Like Here's Mark Rosewater in 2014 with about the same memory as me:
talinthas asked: Any chance of seeing the Arabian Nights card "Stone Throwing Devils" reprinted?

Very little as the title is a slur. We were unaware of the fact when we named the card.
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Post by Still Alive » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:02 pm

Rylinks wrote:4/4 flying vigilance

what colors should this be so it isn't racist
i always thought it was weird that cards like terror and stuff didn't let you kill a black creature, but now i understand that this is because killing a black creature is racist

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Post by Juri » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:00 pm

Cube draft just went up up on MTGA. This is my first deck:

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Piloted this to a 7-2 finish!
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Post by Juri » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:01 pm

Still Alive wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:02 pm
Rylinks wrote:4/4 flying vigilance

what colors should this be so it isn't racist
i always thought it was weird that cards like terror and stuff didn't let you kill a black creature, but now i understand that this is because killing a black creature is racist
It's not weird. The evil creatures and robots just aren't intimidated by scary black spells like everyone else is.
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Post by Juri » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:03 pm

Monty wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:53 pm Wizards of the Coast promised in 1994 not to reprint Stone-Throwing Devils because it was offensive to someone. My memory is that it was Palestinians because that was a phrase they were being called a lot, but I can't find the announcement. It certainly predates the website and it looks like it predates the creation of the rec.arts.games.trading-cards.* hierarchy. It's probably in a Duelist, but meh.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that Stone-Throwing Devils was actually noted as offensive when it came out, so it being on the new list is probably a result of somebody remembering that the way I do.
That's a cool bit of backstory. Thanks Monty
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Post by Juri » Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:31 pm

Second deck. Synergy didn't come all the way together on this one, but we certainly have some cards in here. I like that the legendary sorceries actually function here.

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Currently 1-0, will report back.
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Post by Juri » Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:35 pm

You can tell Ethereal Absolution won me some games in my last draft since you can see me splashing it in this one, for no reason
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Post by Khaos » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:25 pm

cube is fun but man i do not like bo1

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Post by Ashenai » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:58 pm

more like wo1 amirite

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Post by Rylinks » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:22 pm

Juri wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:01 pm
Still Alive wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:02 pm
Rylinks wrote:4/4 flying vigilance

what colors should this be so it isn't racist
i always thought it was weird that cards like terror and stuff didn't let you kill a black creature, but now i understand that this is because killing a black creature is racist
It's not weird. The evil creatures and robots just aren't intimidated by scary black spells like everyone else is.
it reminds me of D&D, where undead creatures had a bunch of random immunities to everything

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Post by Juri » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:24 pm

Khaos wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:25 pm cube is fun but man i do not like bo1
Yeah this would be way better if it was bo3 for sure
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Post by Khaos » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:08 pm

what the hell am i supposed to be doing with this infest

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Post by Juri » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:40 am

The RB deck went 4-3. This deck went 7-2!

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I keep on ending up with Blast Zone in my deck
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Post by Juri » Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:17 pm

Become red.

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Sigiled Sword/Chandra/Heartfire all feel playable. An interesting build. I didn't get enough duals to splash B, even though Judith and Dreadhorde Invasion are really good here.

There's also an argument for cutting Embereth Shieldbreaker and just playing good cards instead of bad ones.
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Post by drk » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:12 pm

Someone (Rooser?) said mono R was bad in this cube, you don't have the manlands or the really cheap spells to make it tick.

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Post by Juri » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:41 pm

it's really hard to get enough 1-drops and 2-drops, that's for sure
i don't think monored is unviable, but it has problems and I'd probably only be looking to move in when it's really open and I get the good payoffs early
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Post by Khaos » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:43 pm

the control strategies seem strong. there are a lot of sweepers

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Post by Juri » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:07 pm

yeah ive drafted a pile of control decks and it's felt pretty good most of the time
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Post by Khaos » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:45 pm

just had the classic UB control vs UB control match up. i played one spell and won. exciting!

edit: ok i made this post 1 turn too soon and lost. :lol:

my opponent had both jace and thassa's oracle ;_; i am the worst magic player

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Post by Skeletor » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:41 pm

Worse than Conley Woods?
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Post by Khaos » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:58 pm

i used to enjoy conley woods videos

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Post by Juri » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:37 pm

Khaos wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:45 pm just had the classic UB control vs UB control match up. i played one spell and won. exciting!

edit: ok i made this post 1 turn too soon and lost. :lol:

my opponent had both jace and thassa's oracle ;_; i am the worst magic player
Wait, one spell over the course of an entire game?
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Post by Khaos » Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:37 pm

well on the final turn i played other things and then lost. i had to fight to kill their jace and then they just oracled me out

(the card i played earlier was folio)

i also had 1 card in my deck left, since they were milling me out with that 5 mana bolas enchantment and ashiok

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Post by Juri » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:58 pm

Khaos wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:37 pm(the card i played earlier was folio)
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Post by Crunchums » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:46 pm

Still Alive wrote:prophecy was kind of eh. i mean it had the woes and the nine mana cards were neat for casual players and that i can actually remember this stuff might make the set pretty cool but i remember being very disappointed buying packs

anyway, the ryhstic stuff was actually p cool, for multiplayer, i guess, like, you'd probably just get blown out of the water if you tried to use that in a one on one.
kid-me bought a lot of prophecy. i really liked it, but i think a lot of that was aesthetics. plus probably i didn't understand how bad the cards were. but now i bet i have a lot of Rhystic Studies, which the internet says are worth 26.39 on paper (wow), although I'm sure mine are in poor condition
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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Still Alive » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:50 pm

whoa, what the fuck

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Re: Random Magic Discussion Thread

Post by Crunchums » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:51 pm

people were talking about it on GG; they said it's because it's very good in multiplayer (which makes sense)
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