POLITICS MOTHERFUCKER

[Rylinks]

what does the US do well

[s. goblin]

I don't mean I buy $800 Armani suits lol, just that I buy clothes from clothes manufacturers, like everyone else.

i figured this was just a thing like how if you came from a country that made good food or had good restaurants or something you would just assume it was the same in NA

like, in NA,, our clothes are made in the shittiest cheapest way possible, from the shittiest cheapest material possible, plastic.

buying clothes from people that actually makes clothes is like a dream. granted you can at least get linen if you get up to like the gap, but you're still not getting clothes from people who are the best at it, or even want to be doing it.

[Ashenai]

what does the US do well

Lots of stuff! Military equipment, robotics, lots of IT stuff, research, and also entertainment.

[Ashenai]

I don't mean I buy $800 Armani suits lol, just that I buy clothes from clothes manufacturers, like everyone else.

i figured this was just a thing like how if you came from a country that made good food or had good restaurants or something you would just assume it was the same in NA

like, in NA,, our clothes are made in the shittiest cheapest way possible, from the shittiest cheapest material possible, plastic.

buying clothes from people that actually makes clothes is like a dream. granted you can at least get linen if you get up to like the gap, but you're still not getting clothes from people who are the best at it, or even want to be doing it.

NA is a big country, I don't think you can really generalize like that. Also I have some 50% polyester stuff I like, it's a hardy and non-demanding material that has its place!

[s. goblin]

NA is a big country, I don't think you can really generalize like that

oh ashenai. you're so optimistic

[Rylinks]

I don't mean I buy $800 Armani suits lol, just that I buy clothes from clothes manufacturers, like everyone else.

i figured this was just a thing like how if you came from a country that made good food or had good restaurants or something you would just assume it was the same in NA

like, in NA,, our clothes are made in the shittiest cheapest way possible, from the shittiest cheapest material possible, plastic.

buying clothes from people that actually makes clothes is like a dream. granted you can at least get linen if you get up to like the gap, but you're still not getting clothes from people who are the best at it, or even want to be doing it.

oh yeah this post made me realize that ashenai is misstating comparative advantage: it's not necessary that the people making the clothes are the best at it. They could be quite bad at it, but everyone else has more importantrenumerative things to do

[s. goblin]

oh yeah this post made me realize that ashenai is misstating comparative advantage: it's not necessary that the people making the clothes are the best at it. They could be quite bad at it, but everyone else has more importantrenumerative things to do

is that even true

[s. goblin]

just open your own factories, huh

[Ashenai]

I don't mean I buy $800 Armani suits lol, just that I buy clothes from clothes manufacturers, like everyone else.

i figured this was just a thing like how if you came from a country that made good food or had good restaurants or something you would just assume it was the same in NA

like, in NA,, our clothes are made in the shittiest cheapest way possible, from the shittiest cheapest material possible, plastic.

buying clothes from people that actually makes clothes is like a dream. granted you can at least get linen if you get up to like the gap, but you're still not getting clothes from people who are the best at it, or even want to be doing it.

oh yeah this post made me realize that ashenai is misstating comparative advantage: it's not necessary that the people making the clothes are the best at it. They could be quite bad at it, but everyone else has more importantrenumerative things to do

I was simplifying, but yes. The point is that specialization works well. It's not worth it to try and do a lot of different things well.

[Rylinks]

what does the US do well

Lots of stuff! Military equipment, robotics, lots of IT stuff, research, and also entertainment.

i would add financial services to this list, but regardless all of these jobs require a college degree or are entertainment and like any good liberal i think it's important to protect less skilled workers from the sharp end of economic competition

[Ashenai]

Oh that reminds me, prisons

[pterrus]

what does the US do well

Pizza delivery and software.

e: I forgot music and movies

[Khaos]

Oh that reminds me, prisons

quality over quantity ashe

[Doug]

what does the US do well

Corn!

[Skeletor]

maize well

[s. goblin]

maize well

that's p good

[Dantes]

Oh that reminds me, prisons

Not really.

Stalin's musings aside, quantity is not quality.

[Rylinks]

essay on the relative merits of compassion and changing attitudes vs. legal and constitutional structures for securing rights, https://writing1pell.files.wordpress.co ... le0001.pdf

Cruelty to strangers and foreigners has prompted many people to seek ways to prevent such actions from recurring. Some solutions envision a framework of cosmopolitan largess that relies on the population to spontaneously and generously "imagine" other persons, and to do so on a day-by-day basis. Alternative solutions, in contrast, attempt to solve the problem of human "otherness" through constitutional design

[Doug]

I'm not sure we can solve the problem of police brutality until something happens that wakes up the entire country, such as for example Whoopi Goldberg getting savagely beaten up by police

[Doug]

[Rylinks]

fifth circuit rules that domestic violence restraining orders may not constitutionally deprive someone of their second amendment rights

Distilled to its essence, the provision operates to deprive an individual of his right to keep and bear arms once a court finds, after notice and a hearing, that the individual poses a “credible threat” to an intimate partner or her child and enters a restraining order to that effect. The covered individual forfeits his Second Amendment right for the duration of the court’s order. This is so even when the individual has not been criminally convicted of any offense and when the underlying proceeding is merely civil in nature.
[...]
The Government fails to demonstrate that § 922(g)(8)’s restriction of the Second Amendment right fits within our Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation. The Government’s proffered analogues falter under one or both of the metrics the Supreme Court articulated in Bruen as the baseline for measuring “relevantly similar” analogues: “how and why the regulations burden a law-abiding citizen’s right to armed self-defense.” Id. As a result, § 922(g)(8) falls outside the class of firearm regulations countenanced by the Second Amendment.

[Dantes]

fifth circuit rules that domestic violence restraining orders may not constitutionally deprive someone of their second amendment rights

Distilled to its essence, the provision operates to deprive an individual of his right to keep and bear arms once a court finds, after notice and a hearing, that the individual poses a “credible threat” to an intimate partner or her child and enters a restraining order to that effect. The covered individual forfeits his Second Amendment right for the duration of the court’s order. This is so even when the individual has not been criminally convicted of any offense and when the underlying proceeding is merely civil in nature.
[...]
The Government fails to demonstrate that § 922(g)(8)’s restriction of the Second Amendment right fits within our Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation. The Government’s proffered analogues falter under one or both of the metrics the Supreme Court articulated in Bruen as the baseline for measuring “relevantly similar” analogues: “how and why the regulations burden a law-abiding citizen’s right to armed self-defense.” Id. As a result, § 922(g)(8) falls outside the class of firearm regulations countenanced by the Second Amendment.

I mean, yeah?

[Ashenai]

Does this mean that an active restraining order was previously used to take people's guns away?

That makes no sense to me

[Dantes]

Does this mean that an active restraining order was previously used to take people's guns away?

That makes no sense to me

What piece?

That an active restraining order might have been used as a pretext to take people's guns away? Or that an active restraining order can no longer be used as a pretext to take people's guns away?

[Ashenai]

The first. Isn't guns supposed to be, like, a guaranteed right for you guys?

[Rylinks]

The first. Isn't guns supposed to be, like, a guaranteed right for you guys?

yes but actually no

[Dantes]

The first. Isn't guns supposed to be, like, a guaranteed right for you guys?

It's complicated.

Some states, and a political party, don't particularly like guns and have used just about ever legislative trick imaginable to limit gun ownership (for example California has every last gun control law National Democrats have been clamoring for, and even more). Other states are pretty gun friendly. It's only really been in this century that SCOTUS has weighed in on what the Constitution really means when it talks about guns. As a result a lot of pre-existing laws have been crashing and burning in the courts when they've been tested.

[seathesee]

Does this mean that an active restraining order was previously used to take people's guns away?

That makes no sense to me

oh hey, ive actually done this before!

i had a client get a protective order against a neighbor. the neighbor was crazy, and claiming that my client was hacking into his xbox, turning off his internet, and stealing pictures of his child that were on the xbox. the neighbor had done some crazy stuff like writing a pretty inflammatory note, attempting to cut the cable wires on my clients condo, and, most importantly, left a bullet on their porch.

we applied for a temporary protective order, and sought an order requiring the neighbor to forfeit their firearms to law enforcement. the judge granted it. the police entered the neighbors property for the purpose of taking the weapons and didnt find any.

this was a few years ago.

[seathesee]

the firearms confiscation was actually a checkbox on the state-created petition form, as i recall.

edit: it was/is.

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[Khaos]

that job sounds very depressing but also good job on protecting someone from a crazy person