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Post by Doug » Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:18 pm

Dantes wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:46 pm
seathesee wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:20 pm
Doug wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:19 pm Australian School Forces Boys as Young as 12 to Apologize to Girls For Their Gender
im choosing not to believe this, but if it were true it would be a good lesson for young people to always apologize when its to their benefit. the world can never have enough cynical, manipulative, self serving liars.
Appears to have actually happened.
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Post by seathesee » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm

Dantes wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:46 pm
seathesee wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:20 pm
Doug wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:19 pm Australian School Forces Boys as Young as 12 to Apologize to Girls For Their Gender
im choosing not to believe this, but if it were true it would be a good lesson for young people to always apologize when its to their benefit. the world can never have enough cynical, manipulative, self serving liars.
Appears to have actually happened.
thats not my truth
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Post by Doug » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:04 am

Send the invoice to God
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Post by Dantes » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:15 am

seathesee wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm
thats not my truth
As you are both a colonizer and a member of the patriarchy, your truth does not matter.
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Post by seathesee » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:14 pm

Dantes wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:15 am
seathesee wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm
thats not my truth
As you are...a colonizer..., your truth does not matter.
seems a little insensitive to those with hansen's disease.
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Post by Doug » Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:36 pm

Administration now storing children under bridges
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Post by Rylinks » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:41 pm

sixth circuit:
THAPAR, Circuit Judge. Traditionally, American universities have been beacons of intellectual diversity and academic freedom. They have prided themselves on being forums where controversial ideas are discussed and debated. And they have tried not to stifle debate by picking sides. But Shawnee State chose a different route: It punished a professor for his speech on a hotly contested issue. And it did so despite the constitutional protections afforded by the First Amendment. The district court dismissed the professor’s free-speech and free-exercise claims. We see things differently and reverse.
the "speech on a hotly contested issue" was a professor refusing to refer to a student by their preferred pronouns

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Post by Doug » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:45 pm

I read about that earlier this week, the professor had said I'll call you by your name
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Post by Rylinks » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:46 pm

normally a government employer would be well within their rights to fire an employee for speech like this, but the court says there's an exception for university professors

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Post by Doug » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:58 pm

I think the court only reinstated the lawsuit, right
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Post by Rylinks » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:06 pm

yeah they reversed the motion to dismiss

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Post by Crunchums » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:38 pm

all lawyering is actually just an elaborate game of Uno
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Post by Dantes » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:52 pm

Crunchums wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:38 pm all lawyering is actually just an elaborate game of Uno
You're not wrong.
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Post by Doug » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:30 pm

CNN wrote:Pentagon could open itself to costly litigation from contractors if US pulls out of Afghanistan this year
I sure hope we fight wars so that Lockheed has a contract
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Post by seathesee » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:50 pm

Doug wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:30 pm
CNN wrote:Pentagon could open itself to costly litigation from contractors if US pulls out of Afghanistan this year
what a depressing sentence
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Post by Doug » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:35 pm

seathesee wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:50 pm
Doug wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:30 pm
CNN wrote:Pentagon could open itself to costly litigation from contractors if US pulls out of Afghanistan this year
what a depressing sentence
Right? The earpiece is in charge
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Post by Doug » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:26 am

Biden admin to call for worldwide tax hike so that US businesses don’t leave country following its corporate tax increase
Is The Blaze doing Onion stuff now
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Post by Dantes » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:32 am

Doug wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:26 am
Biden admin to call for worldwide tax hike so that US businesses don’t leave country following its corporate tax increase
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No. The Biden administration is proposing a global minimum tax among the G20 nations. It’s likely a way to increase corporate tax rates while minimizing the chance that companies relocate to friendlier tax environments.

Basically they’re trying to create a tax cartel.
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Post by Crunchums » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:43 am

Dantes wrote: No. The Biden administration is proposing a global minimum tax among the G20 nations. It’s likely a way to increase corporate tax rates while minimizing the chance that companies relocate to friendlier tax environments.

Basically they’re trying to create a tax cartel.
sounds reasonable to me?
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Post by Doug » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:44 am

Crunchums wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:43 am
Dantes wrote: No. The Biden administration is proposing a global minimum tax among the G20 nations. It’s likely a way to increase corporate tax rates while minimizing the chance that companies relocate to friendlier tax environments.

Basically they’re trying to create a tax cartel.
sounds reasonable to me?
OK but what if a government incentivized its citizens to remain in the country instead of incentivizing them to leave and then having to seek ways to eliminate options
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Post by Ashenai » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:48 am

Companies are not citizens, companies relocating to the Caymans or whatever do not usually involve any citizens leaving the US.

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Post by Doug » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:49 am

Ashenai wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:48 am Companies are not citizens, companies relocating to the Caymans or whatever do not usually involve any citizens leaving the US.
The question remains
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Post by Dantes » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:50 am

Crunchums wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:43 am
Dantes wrote: No. The Biden administration is proposing a global minimum tax among the G20 nations. It’s likely a way to increase corporate tax rates while minimizing the chance that companies relocate to friendlier tax environments.

Basically they’re trying to create a tax cartel.
sounds reasonable to me?
Because governments colluding against their own citizens can’t possibly go wrong.
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Post by Ashenai » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:55 am

I don't understand why you think there's a distinction; incentivizing a company to stay and disincentivizing them from leaving are the exact same thing. The company will stay in the country if doing so is better for it than the alternatives, and will leave otherwise.

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Post by Dantes » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:04 am

Ashenai wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:55 am I don't understand why you think there's a distinction; incentivizing a company to stay and disincentivizing them from leaving are the exact same thing.
I don’t think government has any business incentivizing behavior in general. That being said, there is a difference between tax policies that incentives a company to stay and tax policy that disincentivizes staying coupled with a global scheme that tried to prevent leaving. Saying there’s no difference is disingenuous.
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Post by Crunchums » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:18 am

Dantes wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:50 am Because governments colluding against their own citizens can’t possibly go wrong.
i think it's like one of those game theory problems. maybe X% is the optimal tax rate for society, but if you set that then some other country could get companies to relocate to them by setting something a bit lower than X. so you try to get everyone to agree to X

this isn't to say that whatever rate Biden is pushing specifically is correct, just that conceptually it seems reasonable

"colluding against their own citizens" is a weird framing to me
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Post by Dantes » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 am

Crunchums wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:18 am
Dantes wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:50 am Because governments colluding against their own citizens can’t possibly go wrong.
i think it's like one of those game theory problems. maybe X% is the optimal tax rate for society, but if you set that then some other country could get companies to relocate to them by setting something a bit lower than X. so you try to get everyone to agree to X

this isn't to say that whatever rate Biden is pushing specifically is correct, just that conceptually it seems reasonable

"colluding against their own citizens" is a weird framing to me
If a bunch of companies got together and fixed prices to maximize profits, you’d call that collusion. How is it any different if a bunch of countries get together and fixed tax rates in order to maximize revenue?
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Post by Crunchums » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:25 am

Dantes wrote: If a bunch of companies got together and fixed prices to maximize profits, you’d call that collusion. How is it any different if a bunch of countries get together and fixed tax rates in order to maximize revenue?
in the former case, society is getting screwed. in the latter case (btw i disagree with including the "maximize revenue" part) that is not happening
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Post by Doug » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:30 am

Ashenai wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:55 am I don't understand why you think there's a distinction; incentivizing a company to stay and disincentivizing them from leaving are the exact same thing.
No, they are the same in directional impetus, but they are opposite methodologies

Stay => reward you // anti-stay => anti-reward you

That's called the inverse
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Post by Starprintsky » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:51 am

Crunchums wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:18 am "colluding against their own citizens" is a weird framing to me
Just comes down to how much you want to regulate your capitalism, really. Those companies are run by citizens. Personally, I would be happy to see billion-dollar companies taxed more one way or another.

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