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Post by Blissful » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:59 pm

Shiny Days wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:30 am to be fair if they werent creating problems then they wouldnt have a job that's fixing those problems
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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:44 pm

Do low interest rates make banks more likely to lend money, less likely to lend money, or neither
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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:54 pm

normally neither but banks are running out of places to lend money

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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:54 pm

which i think is is for reasons mostly unrelated to the interest rate

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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:47 pm

Rylinks wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:54 pm normally neither but banks are running out of places to lend money
What do you mean -- are you talking about startups
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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:48 pm

My credit union is constantly telling me I should buy a car, haha. Nope

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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:52 pm

Doug wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Rylinks wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:54 pm normally neither but banks are running out of places to lend money
What do you mean -- are you talking about startups
normally banks will lend all they can regardless of the interest rate but currently they are in the unusual situation of having more capital than chances to loan it out

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Post by haplo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:55 pm

they should lend to each, that way they both get the interest payments. it's kind of like infinite money

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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:34 pm

gaming PCs are now illegal in california, oregon, and a few other states

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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:36 pm

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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:38 pm

yes

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Post by haplo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:44 pm

I keep seeing people say that and its a really disingenuous way to phrase it. The regulations requires PSUs to not go over a certain energy usage when the PC is in idle/sleep mode, and Dell is selling two versions of the same PC with different PSUs for the same price.

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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:45 pm

The California restrictions are complicated and specific, but most gaming machines manufactured between January 1, 2019 and July 1,2021 can use no more than 50, 80, or 100 kWH a year. Anything made after July 1 will be further restricted to 50, 60, or 70 kWH a year.
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A Side By Side Door Refrigerator with a capacity of 550-570 liters consumes 510 units/year.
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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:48 pm

haplo wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:44 pm I keep seeing people say that and its a really disingenuous way to phrase it. The regulations requires PSUs to not go over a certain energy usage when the PC is in idle/sleep mode, and Dell is selling two versions of the same PC with different PSUs for the same price.
the problem is that the ryzen processor uses more idle energy than the regulations allow, so no power supply will help

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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:49 pm

wait nevermind im dumb

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Post by haplo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:52 pm

I believe there's also nothing preventing you from buying each part separately, it seems to just apply to prebuilt PCs.

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Post by haplo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:55 pm

Also I'm not saying the law isn't dumb and poorly-thought, but it's just that I keep seeing people say they're banning PCs which is kind of annoying.

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Post by haplo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:56 pm

I'm not actually even sure if the two R12 "variants" have different PSUs, it could just be that "customizing" a compliant PC is still allowed by the law so they just have a base version that meets the requirement that you can upgrade. I haven't looked into it too deeply.

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Post by Rylinks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:03 pm

i looked and i think it's the graphics card: the non-CA version has an NVIDIA 1660, which isn't an option for the CA computer

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Post by haplo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:07 pm

Rylinks wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:03 pm i looked and i think it's the graphics card: the non-CA version has an NVIDIA 1660, which isn't an option for the CA computer
they seemed identical when I looked, you can see "cec" in the URL which is the different SKU for CA
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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:09 pm

Just make your refrigerator your gaming PC. I understand that there are people playing video games on their smart refrigerators already, if not just to show off
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Post by pterrus » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm

Doug wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:09 pm Just make your refrigerator your gaming PC. I understand that there are people playing video games on their smart refrigerators already, if not just to show off
Just think of the synergy, you don't have to worry about having a cooling system and you will always stay hydrated during long sessions.

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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:22 pm

pterrus wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm
Doug wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:09 pm Just make your refrigerator your gaming PC. I understand that there are people playing video games on their smart refrigerators already, if not just to show off
Just think of the synergy, you don't have to worry about having a cooling system and you will always stay hydrated during long sessions.
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Post by haplo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:22 pm

why would you ever play a game besides doom, anyway?

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Post by Doug » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:26 pm

I mean, when Doom Eternal came out, it pretty much did make me stop playing much else for a good while
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Post by Dantes » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:19 pm

haplo wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:55 pm Also I'm not saying the law isn't dumb and poorly-thought, but it's just that I keep seeing people say they're banning PCs which is kind of annoying.
That is par for the course for California legislation. What they set out to do and what they actually do are rarely aligned.
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Post by haplo » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:21 pm

really, CA needs to man up and just ban almond farms. pretty sure that would solve half their problems

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Post by seathesee » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:50 pm

almonds are just the meme. the issue is tree crops in general. you could take it a step further and say its the water rights system at large, though.
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Post by seathesee » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:50 pm

or, alternatively, its the salmon.
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Post by KingRamz » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:55 pm

Were they trying to go after bitcoin mining or something?

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