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Post by Ashenai » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:22 pm

Doug wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:56 pm
Ashenai wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:23 pm
Dantes wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:13 pm So here's a question. If abortion is sacrosanct as a matter of bodily autonomy, then you would expect most progressives to accept bodily autonomy as a reason to not get vaccinated, wouldn't you?
I think (but am not sure) that going unvaccinated might harm others by spreading the disease and allowing it to mutate faster. I'm not sure how significant the effect is.
The vaccine doesn't stop the spread of the disease, See: Every Country on Earth

The vaccine stops you from dying from the disease
It doesn't stop the spread, but it might slow it, which is not as good but obviously still not useless. I don't really know if it does, though, I've heard conflicting information and was never particularly motivated to look it up.

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Post by Dantes » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:26 pm

Rylinks wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:19 pm yeah there are innumerable reasons for thinking abortion should be legal, but the reasons for thinking abortion is a constitutional right are much more constrained
That's a fair statement.

Personally I hope they throw this back to the political process. It's a political question that needs a political solution, not a judicial solution. Roe has warped the courts (and the country) for a half century and invited all kinds of lawsuits seeking to achieve via judicial fiat that which cannot be achieved politically.
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Post by haplo » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:56 am

I didn't know you were a 70 year old facebook user

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Post by Doug » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:00 am

Well I'm closer to being that than you are
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Post by Rylinks » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:07 am

man everyone on the internet seems very sure roe is dead and i am much more hesitant. predicting votes from oral argument is difficult

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Post by Doug » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:08 am

I'm also not sure! :trey:
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Post by Luna » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:28 am

jane roe has been dead for four years, rylinks

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Post by Crunchums » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:38 am

Rylinks wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:07 am man everyone on the internet seems very sure roe is dead and i am much more hesitant
i thought i saw her obituary a few years ago?
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Post by Rylinks » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:01 am

i suppose you all think epstein is dead too

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Post by Luna » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:05 am

Rylinks wrote:i suppose you all think epstein is dead too
does it even matter

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Post by Crunchums » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:07 am

Luna wrote: does it even matter
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Post by Dantes » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:03 pm

Rylinks wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:01 am i suppose you all think epstein is dead too
I'm open to the idea that his head is in a frozen cryochamber somewhere waiting for the cloning tech to advance. I mean, the dude was a legit Bond villain, so that seems like something he would do.
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Post by Rylinks » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:59 pm

one thing i did learn from oral argument is that justice blackmun, the author of roe, thought the viability line was dicta

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Post by Doug » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:36 pm

What does that mean
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Post by pterrus » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:37 pm

Rylinks wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:59 pm dicta
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Post by Rylinks » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:40 pm

Doug wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:36 pm What does that mean
something in a court opinion that is not about deciding the case in front of it, and is generally not precedential in the sense of stare decisis. It may be persuasive, because usually the people who write court opinions are respected jurists

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Post by Rylinks » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:47 pm

for example, in trump vs. hawaii, roberts went out of his way to say korematsu (the japanese internement case) was wrongly decided. Because trump vs. hawaii was not about military detention of anyone, the status of korematsu is not necessary for deciding the case, and so this statement is dicta

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Post by Doug » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:48 pm

Mike Dicta was the coach of the Bears
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Post by Doug » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:48 pm

A jurist is someone who is a fan of Juri
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Post by Ashenai » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:51 pm

pterrus wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:37 pm
Rylinks wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:59 pm dicta
I fell for ligma and garglon, but you're not getting me again
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Doug wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:48 pm A jurist is someone who is a fan of Juri
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Post by Doug » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:39 pm

And, what am I looking at
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Post by Rylinks » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:50 pm

matty tweeted a super zoomed in graph of gas prices going down by two cents and sarcastically said this was because of biden

then a political advocacy group saw this and tweeted
‘thanks biden’

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Post by Doug » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:58 pm

whoo hoo gonna go out and fill up 20 gas cans
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Post by Khaos » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:41 pm

Rylinks wrote:matty tweeted a super zoomed in graph of gas prices going down by two cents and sarcastically said this was because of biden

then a political advocacy group saw this and tweeted
‘thanks biden’
thanks rylinks

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Post by Doug » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:41 pm

Khaos wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:41 pm
Rylinks wrote:matty tweeted a super zoomed in graph of gas prices going down by two cents and sarcastically said this was because of biden

then a political advocacy group saw this and tweeted
‘thanks biden’
thanks rylinks
thanks Khaos
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Post by Blissful » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:24 am

Khaos wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:41 pm
Rylinks wrote:matty tweeted a super zoomed in graph of gas prices going down by two cents and sarcastically said this was because of biden

then a political advocacy group saw this and tweeted
‘thanks biden’
thanks rylinks
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