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Post by Dantes » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:15 pm

TulsaWorld long form on the Tulsa Race Riot

I recommend reading it. I've talked about this event before. It happened before my people moved to the area, but it still impacts me quite a lot. Oklahoma State University's Tulsa Campus is in the Greenwood district, it's where I finished my degree. It's still a blasted area of town with no grocery stores and almost no modern commerce. It's an absolute tragedy. At the time it was known as the Black Wall Street and it flourished. I cannot help but wonder what my hometown might have been like if the greenwood district had been allowed to grow.

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Post by Doug » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:53 pm

The Watchmen TV show depicted the Tulsa massacre -- that's the only depiction of it on screen that I know of
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Post by Dantes » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:56 pm

Doug wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:53 pm The Watchmen TV show depicted the Tulsa massacre -- that's the only depiction of it on screen that I know of
Yep. I plan on watching the show just because of that.
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Post by rianalnn » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:18 am

Sickening :(
& here we are 100 years later...

Thanks for sharing, Dantes.

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Post by Still Alive » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:13 am

An article about third wave ska music, and the nineties. Kind of more the latter, which is interesting in a few ways. It's neat to have the 90s be so far gone that we're actually fucking discussing the thing / looking back on the thing like some long gone golden age, but then I guess it actually fucking is. That was *coughing up blood* years ago!

Obviously time has dulled the edge. I'm sure the nineties weren't that great, and if it was spectacular it was because I was too young to actually be aware of anything going on -- but then it was a time before social media so everyone was probably just way happier

so when people do look back i am always assuming that it is with rose tinted, nostalgia glasses, but, man, maybe the 90s weren't really that bad. ska, the subject of the article, obviously wasn't an incarnation of the good times, and a representation of the 90s and it being good, and with ska passing, seemingly overnight, so went all of that, and into the bland and miserable 00s we went, only for it to somehow get even worse in the 10s, but, like... eh...

and you probably don't want to say, like, well, the 90s were pretty rad because we had good movies, practical effects, tv was ok, the music was scene was great (country was at its best), let's just not glance at any of these violent crime charts, uh, aids, etc.., so then, ok, how about if just the 90s were at least an optimistic time to exist, even if just looking back on it. computers and the web coming into existence. consoles being at their best, surging back into popularity. social media didnt exist.

it'll be cool anyway to read articles like this about how, like, great the 10s were or something when those guys are around our age. yeah the web was shrinking and arguably getting worse. social media existed, but that connected people. youtube was only kind of a nightmare, it certainly made a lot things more accessible. everything then being designed for phones did suck, but we all used phones, so it was actually good. i dunno

anyway, the article:

https://wastelandandsky.blogspot.com/20 ... it-up.html

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Post by Still Alive » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:20 am

the computer web thing is probably only the non superficial thing but how do you separate a rad time to exist from all the dumb superficial stuff that made it rad to exist then. it was good to exist when there was good movies and musics and games and the future actually looked promising

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Post by catonkeyboard » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:51 am

Wait, this isn't the MODO Mia Culpa tweet thread
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Re: Worth Reading

Post by Shiny Days » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:32 am

Not one to link twitter thread things, but I guess if that's how information is being presented. This is a neat one about the second to latest (?) forest fire in California:
wait until you see what they were fined!

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Post by Doug » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:42 am

Reminds me of Boeing
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Post by Skeletor » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:13 am

Actually only I can prevent forest fires
wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Post by Rylinks » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:02 pm

if that thread doesn't trip your 'engineer talking outside their field' detection i don't know what to say

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Post by Rylinks » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:11 pm

here are detailed analyses of stress markings on this c-hook. now let me tell you what that means for organizational structure and why management is stupid

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Post by Khaos » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:03 pm

Doug wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:42 am Reminds me of Boeing
not me. this failure is bad but could have been caused by a tree being blown over. they're kinda expected failures although you just hope they dont cause a huge wildfire

boeing just fucked up their design on day 1. this lasted a very long time before failing

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Post by Khaos » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:04 pm

that photo also makes it hard to figure out whats wrong because of the weird angle

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Post by Khaos » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:06 pm

also im no transmission line engineer but are there no shield wires on that structure? maybe thats typical for older ones?

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Post by pterrus » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:39 pm

Khaos wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:03 pm
Doug wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:42 am Reminds me of Boeing
not me. this failure is bad but could have been caused by a tree being blown over. they're kinda expected failures although you just hope they dont cause a huge wildfire

boeing just fucked up their design on day 1. this lasted a very long time before failing
Yeah in neither case was it really a reliability issue. Boeing had a safety problem baked into their design. And in this case it sounds like PG&E was just straight up negligent on long term maintenance. Possibly there is another side to the story but I don't usually require a high threshold of evidence when someone tells me "large company skimps on recurring costs."

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Post by Doug » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:24 pm

Right but in both cases there's a lack of commitment to safety

In both cases there's no failure mode analysis worth anything
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Post by Khaos » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:37 pm

Doug wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:24 pm Right but in both cases there's a lack of commitment to safety
maybe? at what point do you chalk something up to being a freak accident?

obviously at this point you check that part on all your towers during inspections, but you know

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Post by Monty » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:25 pm

Judging solely by that Twitter thread, the Camp B Fire (a tree fell on a distribution line) was a freak accident, but the C hook being slowly sawed through over a hundred years was both predictable and avoidable.
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Post by Shiny Days » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:31 pm

Rylinks wrote:if that thread doesn't trip your 'engineer talking outside their field' detection i don't know what to say
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Post by Doug » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:45 pm

Khaos wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:37 pm
Doug wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:24 pm Right but in both cases there's a lack of commitment to safety
maybe? at what point do you chalk something up to being a freak accident?
I'm not sure what that question is asking exactly, but it sure looks like nobody determined the expected failure rate of these metal hooks, or analyzed what their failure would cause
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Post by KingRamz » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:00 pm

Doug wrote:
Khaos wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:37 pm
Doug wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:24 pm Right but in both cases there's a lack of commitment to safety
maybe? at what point do you chalk something up to being a freak accident?
I'm not sure what that question is asking exactly, but it sure looks like nobody determined the expected failure rate of these metal hooks, or analyzed what their failure would cause
My analysis says it will cause a parade! PG&E, you know where to send my check to

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Post by Dantes » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:12 pm

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Post by Starprintsky » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:54 am

Dantes wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:12 pm Atlantic long format about the guy who started the daily stormer.

It is disturbing as fuck.
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Post by Dantes » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:51 pm

Rolling Stone long form about the fall of Jerry Falwell Jr.

The tone is surprisingly not condescending. I think it makes for a good cautionary tale.
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Post by Monty » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:27 pm

Dantes wrote:Rolling Stone long form about the fall of Jerry Falwell Jr.

The tone is surprisingly not condescending. I think it makes for a good cautionary tale.
This is a good piece.
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Post by Dantes » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:34 pm

Monty wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:27 pm
Dantes wrote:Rolling Stone long form about the fall of Jerry Falwell Jr.

The tone is surprisingly not condescending. I think it makes for a good cautionary tale.
This is a good piece.
Right?

When I see a Rolling Stone article about the leader of a Christian University, I don't really have any positive expectations about the tone and viewpoint. It was definitely critical, and it should be, but if anything it was most sympathetic towards the students and faculty who are having their credentials and resumes diminished by Falwell.
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Post by Monty » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:59 pm

Yeah, it's not saying "Christians are bad" or even "Christianity-based institutes of learning are bad." It's almost entirely about this one particular dude, and this one particular school. And there is plenty there to talk about!

I do think Jerry Falwell, Jr. he wouldn't have gotten as much attention if he had a different name, but that works in more than one direction. I don't have much standing to say this, but he doesn't seem like a very good Christian.
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Post by Monty » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:09 pm

Also, let's face it, any article that contains the phrase "In a secretly taped conversation with comedian Tom Arnold" is going to be at least okay.
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Post by Dantes » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:19 pm

Monty wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:09 pm Also, let's face it, any article that contains the phrase "In a secretly taped conversation with comedian Tom Arnold" is going to be at least okay.
Yeah, I had to read that twice. I mean, if you're going to Trump's fixer for help...of course Tom Arnold is going to get involved. I feel like there were some flashing red warning signs here that were clearly ignored.
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