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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Crunchums » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:37 pm

imagine a free-to-play boot stamping on a human face - forever
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Doug » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:39 pm

lol wow
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Faceless » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:40 pm

Crunchums wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:37 pm imagine a free-to-play boot stamping on a human face - forever

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:53 pm

Faceless wrote:https://kotaku.com/valves-card-game-art ... 1831816328

imagine losing 97.5% of your playerbase in the first two months lol
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:54 pm

oh also randy pitchford is a legal battle right now that involves the accusation that he had child pornography on a usb stick that other people can corroborate

good luck anyone looking forward to borderlands 3

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:56 pm

it's cool though

"He admitted on a podcast to losing the porn memory stick at Medieval Times. He says the download was research into a magic trick and the girl was not underage."

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Khaos » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:05 pm

i still enjoy artifact

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:07 pm

Khaos wrote:i still enjoy it
it's a good game! the problem is really just where we're at as an industry. maybe we can get someone here to celebrate dlc, microtransactions, and predatory gambling practice stuff

fuck if only valve had coped the hearthstone model

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:09 pm

it's really interesting too because, iguess, there was at least a sense of like, "we're all in this together!" nobody wants final fantasy seven to be reimagined and then repackaged and rereleased as like 20 different chapters at cost each, right? and nobody actually thinks that pre order bonuses are a good thing, or that pre ordering is good at all? that content should be cut out of a game and then sold as dlc. early access, the list goes on and on

well, nope, it turns out that this is all what people actually want. more lootboxes, please.

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Doug » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:13 pm

People do like pre-order bonuses, because it feels like they're helping to ensure the game's existence (even though they're probably not)
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Doug » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:14 pm

Also there's the Expansion Phenomenon we've talked about with board games, where when you see a game, you think, maybe it's good, but then when you see it has 20 expansions you think holy shit it MUST be good
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:14 pm

Doug wrote:People do like pre-order bonuses, because it feels like they're helping to ensure the game's existence (even though they're probably not)
are they dumb

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Doug » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:15 pm

kouharti wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:14 pm
Doug wrote:People do like pre-order bonuses, because it feels like they're helping to ensure the game's existence (even though they're probably not)
are they dumb
I'd say that heavily depends upon what the bonuses are
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Doug » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:16 pm

Oh another reason to pre-order a game digitally is, if you're salivating to play it -- with some games, pre-ordering means that you actually download it now, and then at midnight on the release date, voila, you can play it immediately

That's more of a console thing I imagine
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:17 pm

Doug wrote:Oh another reason to pre-order a game digitally is, if you're salivating to play it -- with some games, pre-ordering means that you actually download it now, and then at midnight on the release date, voila, you can play it immediately

That's more of a console thing I imagine
ok, so, more bad things for pre ordering

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Rylinks » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:18 pm

pre-ordering is fine, and people's newfound disdain for it is a symptom of other problems

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Doug » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:19 pm

Board games are funny

Like, they're not going to run out of Assassin's Creed, you literally don't need to pre-order it, there's always more Assassin's Creed

But some board games, it's like, did you pre-order it? No? Then you ain't getting one

Good luck getting High Frontier Third Edition for example. You're not
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:19 pm

Rylinks wrote:pre-ordering is fine, and people's newfound disdain for it is a symptom of other problems
the practices tied into pre ordering. if you want to just give a company you like money for nothing, then that's fine, and you could just trust that people have done their researh

but then while we're talking about artifact, steam basically destroyed their community good will by offering a pre order option, and then not giving the pre order people beta access, even though that wasn't anything they said they were going to do, or that people got for pre ordering

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:21 pm

maybe steam could have got those people back in a really clever way, though, like, you get a card that destroys target toxic masculinity

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Doug » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:23 pm

kouharti wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:21 pm maybe steam could have got those people back in a really clever way, though, like, you get a card that destroys target toxic masculinity
I like it when somebody tells me that my overwhelming masculinity is toxic, it's hot
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Khaos » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:07 pm

i like lootboxes so long as they're for purely cosmetic purposes

random people are subsidizing my overwatch experience, and i like it

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Wumpy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:08 pm

re artifact: the game itself is really good! i like a lot of what they were doing with it, except the structure of how it was monetized and whatnot was, at least to me, pretty obviously never going to take off since it was structured like a physical card game, even though the cards themselves were probably gonna be way cheaper than one. just seems like a bit of a miscalculation of what keeps people playing digital card games

but then steam also banned a VN i wanna buy, even after their whole 18+ content being allowed thing, so i am conflicted on if i should feel bad for them or not

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Khaos » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:24 pm

we should do a draft tournament. it sounds like we have at least 4 grobotters who play

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Hoshi » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:11 am

kouharti wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:56 pm research into a magic trick
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:13 am

haha

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Juri » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:15 am

kouharti wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:07 pm
Khaos wrote:i still enjoy it
it's a good game!
Do you play it much RT?
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Re: Salt Mining

Post by kouharti » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:16 am

Juri wrote: Do you play it much RT?
i played the tutorial missions and i feel bad for not playing it more but i don't really play anything. doing things is not my jam

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Khaos » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:59 pm

play with me!

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Khaos » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:01 pm

Khaos wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:24 pm we should do a draft tournament. it sounds like we have at least 4 grobotters who play
bumping this to see if anyone is interested again.
skeletor on gg​​ wrote:do we have enough people to do an 8-man? tournaments have no time limits so we can play at whatever pace. i propose either random 2-color decks with the blitz timer, or draft.

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Re: Salt Mining

Post by Juri » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:20 am

i dont own the game, otherwise i would be playing
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