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Post by Skeletor » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:26 am

well i certainly wouldn't tweet anything
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Post by Dantes » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:26 pm

Ashenai wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:32 pm 50% creepy 50% cool 50% heartwarming
100% tragic.
Pour like Hemingway's last call.

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Post by Blissful » Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:04 pm

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Post by Ashenai » Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:26 pm

lmao

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Post by Rylinks » Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:35 pm

i especially like how the argument doesn’t matter because the mom says to go to bed

studies have shown a strong link between going to bed and sleep quality

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Post by Ashenai » Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:39 pm

Rylinks wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:35 pm studies have shown a strong link between going to bed and sleep quality
The statement “studies have shown a strong link between going to bed and sleep quality” is based on the assumption that going to bed is the same as falling asleep. However, this is not always the case. Many factors can affect how quickly and easily one falls asleep, such as stress, noise, light, temperature, caffeine, alcohol, and screen time. Therefore, going to bed does not guarantee good sleep quality.

Moreover, the statement does not specify when one goes to bed or how consistent one’s sleep schedule is. These factors are also important for sleep quality. Research has shown that having a regular bedtime and wake-up time can improve sleep quality and health[1]. On the other hand, going to bed at different times each night or staying up too late can disrupt the body’s circadian rhythm and impair sleep quality[2].

Finally, the statement does not account for individual differences in sleep needs and preferences. Some people may need more or less sleep than others to function well. Some people may be more sensitive to environmental or lifestyle factors that affect sleep quality. Some people may prefer to go to bed early and wake up early, while others may prefer to go to bed late and wake up late. Therefore, going to bed is not a one-size-fits-all solution for good sleep quality.

In conclusion, the statement “studies have shown a strong link between going to bed and sleep quality” is too simplistic and ignores many other factors that influence sleep quality. A more accurate statement would be “studies have shown a strong link between getting enough quality sleep and health”.

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Post by Rylinks » Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:46 pm

the definitive word on this has already been published[1]


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Post by s. goblin » Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:40 am

Microsoft’s Bing chatbot is getting more ads

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/29/2366 ... ue-sharing

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Post by s. goblin » Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:41 am

this is actually kind of cool like oh no ai is gonna get too powerful it's gonna take over the world

one year later: hey bing can you recommend me some quick and easy meals i can make in under thirty minutes

1. The new Chicken Big Mac features two patties made with 100% Canadian raised seasoned chicken breast in a crispy, light-tasting coating, along with the much-loved special sauce, lettuce, processed cheddar cheese and pickles. With a side of classic McDonald's fries, we'd say this sounds like the perfect meal.

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Post by s. goblin » Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:43 am

<do program thing>

*cracks open a cold and refreshing can of mt dew baja blast understanding fully that the caffeine and sugar will give me the energy i need to accomplish this task!*

var %DoTheDew

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Post by Jeb Bush 2012 » Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:45 am

big brands tend to be pretty sensitive to reputational risks so idk if they would want to pay for the chance of seeing a headline like “Microsoft Bing Tells Child to Murder Their Parents for the McRib”

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Post by s. goblin » Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:47 am

Jeb Bush 2012 wrote:big brands tend to be pretty sensitive to reputational risks so idk if they would want to pay for the chance of seeing a headline like “Microsoft Bing Tells Child to Murder Their Parents for the McRib”
murder your parents to help solve climate change

and then head down to kfc for a delicious

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Post by mindwarped » Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:06 am

s. goblin wrote:light-tasting coating
yum

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Post by Doug » Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:07 am

Murder your kids ... for Vectron
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Post by Skeletor » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:29 am

s. goblin wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:43 am <do program thing>

*cracks open a cold and refreshing can of mt dew baja blast understanding fully that the caffeine and sugar will give me the energy i need to accomplish this task!*

var %DoTheDew
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Post by Dantes » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:38 am

Jeb Bush 2012 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:45 am big brands tend to be pretty sensitive to reputational risks so idk if they would want to pay for the chance of seeing a headline like “Microsoft Bing Tells Child to Murder Their Parents for the McRib”
And yet, Tucker still has an ad base.
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Post by Skeletor » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:06 am

wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Post by Skeletor » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:08 am

this tells chatgpt to reduce the given prompt, using whatever it wants, doesn't need to be human readable, but should retain the same meaning. it can be verified to retain the same meaning because if you tell it to decompress it, it does a very good job
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Post by Skeletor » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:15 am

this is the prompt they use:

compress the following text in a way that fits in a tweet (ideally) and such that you (GPT-4) can reconstruct the intention of the human who wrote text as close as possible to the original intention. This is for yourself. It does not need to be human readable or understandable. Abuse of language mixing, abbreviations, symbols (unicode and emoji), or any other encodings or internal representations is all permissible, as long as it, if pasted in a new inference cycle, will yield near-identical results as the original text:
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Post by Skeletor » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:16 am

it didn't actually do an amazing job on some of the prompts i tested with but it's still quite interesting imo
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Post by Ashenai » Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:48 am

I don't believe it's compression in any real sense, especially because GPT has no special insight into its own functioning. I suspect you will get similar results if you do the compression yourself, as long as you tell ChatGPT that it did the compression.

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Post by Ashenai » Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:49 am

Notice that all the compressions are, in fact, very human-readable. They're for your benefit, not ChatGPT's.

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Post by Ashenai » Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:52 am

Suggestion: ask GPT to compress the prompt in a way that's definitely unreadable to humans (but still fully decipherable to itself).

Prediction: it will break (pretend to compress stuff by producing gibberish that it will then be unable to decipher).

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Post by Skeletor » Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:08 pm

Ashenai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:48 am I don't believe it's compression in any real sense, especially because GPT has no special insight into its own functioning. I suspect you will get similar results if you do the compression yourself, as long as you tell ChatGPT that it did the compression.
if it's fewer tokens and if the prompt still works, then it's compression. it's not clear the prompts still work often enough though

idunno why it would need to have any special "insight" into its own functioning to do this. it would be surprising if this works but it's also kind of a translation task
Ashenai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:49 am Notice that all the compressions are, in fact, very human-readable. They're for your benefit, not ChatGPT's.
they're much less readable than the source prompts
Ashenai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:52 am Suggestion: ask GPT to compress the prompt in a way that's definitely unreadable to humans (but still fully decipherable to itself).

Prediction: it will break (pretend to compress stuff by producing gibberish that it will then be unable to decipher).
probably yeah, i could try it but it's also what i expect

actually, probably a better way to see what's going on is to paste the source and results into https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer and see how they tokenize. i went ahead and did that, and all of the compression is coming from removing fluff words. most of the shortened text are the same number of tokens, but sometimes more ('cr8' is two instead of one for 'create', any emoji is a huge number of tokens compared to the one it replaced)
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Post by Skeletor » Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:17 pm

you're also right that the prompt is all the usual stuff that makes no sense
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Post by Ashenai » Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:53 pm

Skeletor wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:08 pm actually, probably a better way to see what's going on is to paste the source and results into https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer and see how they tokenize. i went ahead and did that, and all of the compression is coming from removing fluff words. most of the shortened text are the same number of tokens, but sometimes more ('cr8' is two instead of one for 'create', any emoji is a huge number of tokens compared to the one it replaced)
Oh that's interesting, I didn't even consider that an emoji would be multiple tokens.

Yeah I have no doubt it's compression, of a sort, but it's compression in the same way as "summarize this news story for me" will also get you a sort of compression, and ChatGPT will also be able to expand that into... not exactly the original news story, but something similar.

I bet if you do your own compression by simply removing all the vowels from the words, you'll get both better compression and fewer decompression artifacts than what ChatGPT can come up with. Because it's just giving you text that looks plausibly like compression to you! Turns out "something that looks like compression" does also function as compression, but not very efficiently.

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Post by Skeletor » Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:48 pm

removing vowels will get you a lot more tokens! probably you want a pass that removes low-meaning tokens instead
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Post by Ashenai » Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:29 pm

Agh! I keep forgetting how tokens work

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Post by Blissful » Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:50 am

Ashenai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:29 pm Agh! I keep forgetting how tokens work
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